Eddie Cicotte vs Addie Joss: Career Stats Comparison

Eddie Cicotte (1905–1920) and Addie Joss (1902–1910) — both came up during the 1900s, so the matchup is a direct one. Eddie Cicotte compiled 209 wins and 1,374 strikeouts; Addie Joss put up 160 wins and 920 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Eddie Cicotte

Pitcher · 1905–1920
Wins
209
Losses
149
Strikeouts
1,374
ERA
2.38
WHIP
1.15
IP
3,226
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Addie Joss

Pitcher · 1902–1910
Wins
160
Losses
97
Strikeouts
920
ERA
1.89
WHIP
0.97
IP
2,327
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Eddie Cicotte Addie Joss
Wins 209 160
Losses 149 97
Games 502 286
Games Started 361 260
Complete Games 249 234
Shutouts 35 45
Saves 24 5
Strikeouts 1,374 920
Walks 827 364
Hits Allowed 2,897 1,888
Home Runs Allowed 32 19
Innings Pitched 3,226 2,327
ERA 2.38 1.89
WHIP 1.15 0.97
K/9 3.83 3.56
BB/9 2.31 1.41

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Eddie Cicotte leads Addie Joss 32,933 to 29,177 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (2,196 vs 3,242 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Eddie Cicotte
32,933
Career Pitcher PIV · 2,196 per season (15 seasons)
Addie Joss
29,177
Career Pitcher PIV · 3,242 per season (9 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Eddie Cicotte — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19171.53 ERA28-12, 150 K in 346 IP
19131.58 ERA18-12, 121 K in 268 IP
19161.78 ERA15-7, 91 K in 187 IP

Addie Joss — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19081.16 ERA24-11, 130 K in 325 IP
19041.59 ERA14-10, 83 K in 192 IP
19091.71 ERA14-13, 67 K in 242 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Eddie Cicotte leads in wins, strikeouts, K/9, and innings pitched, while Addie Joss owns ERA and WHIP. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Eddie Cicotte. PIV agrees: Eddie Cicotte grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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