Elmer Flick vs Bobby Veach: Career Stats Comparison
Elmer Flick (1898–1910) and Bobby Veach (1912–1925) — they broke in during the 1890s and the 1910s respectively, which makes the side-by-side worth doing carefully. Elmer Flick finished with 1,752 hits and 48 home runs; Bobby Veach finished with 2,063 hits and 64 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.
Elmer Flick
Bobby Veach
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate for Elmer Flick and Bobby Veach. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. Counting stats reward longevity; the rate stats at the bottom are era-agnostic.
| Statistic | Elmer Flick | Bobby Veach |
|---|---|---|
| Games | 1,483 | 1,821 |
| At-Bats | 5,597 | 6,656 |
| Runs | 950 | 953 |
| Hits | 1,752 | 2,063 |
| Doubles | 268 | 393 |
| Triples | 164 | 147 |
| Home Runs | 48 | 64 |
| RBI | 756 | 1,166 |
| Walks | 597 | 571 |
| Strikeouts | 567 | 370 |
| Stolen Bases | 330 | 195 |
| Batting Avg | .313 | .310 |
| On-Base % | .389 | .370 |
| Slugging % | .445 | .442 |
| OPS | .834 | .812 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Elmer Flick leads Bobby Veach 29,192 to 23,212 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (2,085 vs 1,451 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).
Elmer Flick — top 3 seasons by OPS
Bobby Veach — top 3 seasons by OPS
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Elmer Flick leads in stolen bases, batting average, OBP, and OPS, while Bobby Veach owns hits, home runs, and RBI. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Elmer Flick. PIV agrees: Elmer Flick grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.