Ken Forsch vs Bobby Grich: Career Stats Comparison

Ken Forsch and Bobby Grich played different roles, so their careers are compared side by side rather than scored against each other. Ken Forsch played 1970–1986 as a pitcher; Bobby Grich played 1970–1986 as a hitter.

AVG (Batting Average):
Hits divided by at bats. .300 is the traditional mark of an excellent hitter.
HR (Home Runs):
Hits on which the batter circled the bases and scored, almost always by clearing the outfield fence.
RBI (Runs Batted In):
Runs that scored as a direct result of a batter's plate appearance.
OPS (On-Base Plus Slugging):
On-base percentage plus slugging percentage, the quickest single summary of offensive value. .900 or better is star-level.

Data updated

Ken Forsch (1970–1986) and Bobby Grich (1970–1986) played opposite sides of the ball, so there is no honest category-by-category scoreboard for this matchup. Ken Forsch pitched, totalling 114 wins and 1,047 strikeouts; Bobby Grich hit, totalling 1,833 hits and 224 home runs. Each career is shown below in its own discipline, with PIV as the one measure that spans both roles.

Quick answer

  • Who has the higher career PIV? Bobby Grich, with 20,680 career PIV to Ken Forsch's 13,222.
  • Who won more championships? Bobby Grich, with 1 World Series title to Ken Forsch's 0.

Ken Forsch

Pitcher · 1970–1986
Wins
114
Losses
113
Strikeouts
1,047
ERA
3.37
WHIP
1.25
IP
2,127.1
View Ken Forsch's full profile →

Bobby Grich

Hitter · 1970–1986
Games
2,008
Hits
1,833
Home Runs
224
RBI
864
Avg
.266
OPS
.794
View Bobby Grich's full profile →

Career Stats, Each in His Own Role

Ken Forsch is shown on pitching lines and Bobby Grich on batting lines. Nothing is marked as a category winner, because these two cards measure different jobs — reading them cell against cell would tell you nothing.

Ken Forsch — Pitcher

Ken Forsch vs Bobby Grich: Career Stats Comparison — Ken Forsch — Pitcher
Statistic Ken Forsch
Wins 114
Losses 113
Games 521
Games Started 241
Complete Games 70
Shutouts 18
Saves 51
Strikeouts 1,047
Walks 586
Hits Allowed 2,071
Home Runs Allowed 155
Innings Pitched 2,127.1
ERA 3.37
WHIP 1.25
K/9 4.43
BB/9 2.48

Bobby Grich — Hitter

Ken Forsch vs Bobby Grich: Career Stats Comparison — Bobby Grich — Hitter
Statistic Bobby Grich
Games 2,008
At-Bats 6,890
Runs 1,033
Hits 1,833
Doubles 320
Triples 47
Home Runs 224
RBI 864
Walks 1,087
Strikeouts 1,278
Stolen Bases 104
Batting Avg .266
On-Base % .371
Slugging % .424
OPS .794

PIV Comparison through 2025

Ken Forsch carries a career pitching PIV of 13,222; Bobby Grich carries a career batting PIV of 20,680. Bobby Grich is the higher of the two at 20,680 to 13,222. Both figures adjust each season to league baselines, but batting PIV and pitching PIV are calibrated separately — so read this as a directional comparison of career impact, not a settled verdict.

PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.

Ken Forsch
13,222
Career Pitcher PIV · 826 per season (16 seasons)
Bobby Grich
20,680
Career PIV · 1,216 per season (17 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked within his own role — ERA for the pitcher (120+ innings), OPS for the hitter (300+ at-bats).

Ken Forsch — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19712.53 ERA8-8, 131 K in 188 IP
19782.70 ERA10-6, 71 K in 133 IP
19812.88 ERA11-7, 55 K in 153 IP

Bobby Grich — top 3 seasons by OPS

1981.921 OPS22 HR, 61 RBI, .304 avg
1979.903 OPS30 HR, 101 RBI, .294 avg
1983.874 OPS16 HR, 62 RBI, .292 avg

Verdict

There is no head-to-head scoreboard for Ken Forsch and Bobby Grich: one pitched and one hit, and no counting stat means the same thing on both cards. On PIV — the one metric that scores both roles against league baselines — Bobby Grich grades higher, 20,680 to 13,222. Because the batting and pitching versions of PIV are calibrated separately, that gap is a directional signal about career impact rather than a ruling on who was the better ballplayer. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

Related Matchups

How the Ken Forsch and Bobby Grich careers compare

The careers of Ken Forsch (1970–1986) and Bobby Grich (1970–1986) overlapped from 1970 to 1986, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. As a pitcher, Ken Forsch went 114-113 with a 3.37 ERA and 1,047 strikeouts. As a hitter, Bobby Grich collected 1,833 hits and 224 home runs with a .794 OPS. No single table can grade a pitcher against a hitter, so each career is shown in its own discipline, with PIV as the common scale. Their best seasons are measured differently, 2.53 ERA in 1971 for Ken Forsch and .921 OPS in 1981 for Bobby Grich.

Ken Forsch vs Bobby Grich: Frequently Asked Questions

Who has the higher career PIV?
Bobby Grich, with 20,680 career PIV to Ken Forsch's 13,222.
Who won more championships?
Bobby Grich, with 1 World Series title to Ken Forsch's 0.
How do Ken Forsch and Bobby Grich compare?
Ken Forsch played 1970–1986 and Bobby Grich played 1970–1986; this page sets their career totals side by side in every category both accumulated.