Addie Joss vs Herb Pennock: Career Stats Comparison

Addie Joss (1902–1910) and Herb Pennock (1912–1934) — breaking in during the 1900s and the 1910s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Addie Joss compiled 160 wins and 920 strikeouts; Herb Pennock put up 240 wins and 1,227 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Addie Joss

Pitcher · 1902–1910
Wins
160
Losses
97
Strikeouts
920
ERA
1.89
WHIP
0.97
IP
2,327
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Herb Pennock

Pitcher · 1912–1934
Wins
240
Losses
162
Strikeouts
1,227
ERA
3.60
WHIP
1.35
IP
3,571
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Addie Joss Herb Pennock
Wins 160 240
Losses 97 162
Games 286 617
Games Started 260 420
Complete Games 234 247
Shutouts 45 35
Saves 5 32
Strikeouts 920 1,227
Walks 364 916
Hits Allowed 1,888 3,900
Home Runs Allowed 19 128
Innings Pitched 2,327 3,571
ERA 1.89 3.60
WHIP 0.97 1.35
K/9 3.56 3.09
BB/9 1.41 2.31

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Herb Pennock edges Addie Joss 29,181 to 29,177 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (1,269 vs 3,242 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Addie Joss
29,177
Career Pitcher PIV · 3,242 per season (9 seasons)
Herb Pennock
29,181
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,269 per season (23 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Addie Joss — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19081.16 ERA24-11, 130 K in 325 IP
19041.59 ERA14-10, 83 K in 192 IP
19091.71 ERA14-13, 67 K in 242 IP

Herb Pennock — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19282.56 ERA17-6, 53 K in 211 IP
19192.71 ERA16-8, 70 K in 219 IP
19142.79 ERA11-4, 90 K in 151 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Herb Pennock leads in wins, strikeouts, and innings pitched, while Addie Joss owns ERA, WHIP, and K/9. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Herb Pennock. PIV agrees: Herb Pennock grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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