Jon Lieber vs John Smoltz: Career Stats Comparison

Jon Lieber (1994–2008) and John Smoltz (1988–2009) — breaking in during the 1990s and the 1980s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Jon Lieber compiled 131 wins and 1,553 strikeouts; John Smoltz put up 213 wins and 3,084 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Jon Lieber

Pitcher · 1994–2008
Wins
131
Losses
124
Strikeouts
1,553
ERA
4.27
WHIP
1.28
IP
2,198
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John Smoltz

Pitcher · 1988–2009
Wins
213
Losses
155
Strikeouts
3,084
ERA
3.33
WHIP
1.18
IP
3,473
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Jon Lieber John Smoltz
Wins 131 213
Losses 124 155
Games 401 723
Games Started 327 481
Complete Games 25 53
Shutouts 5 16
Saves 2 154
Strikeouts 1,553 3,084
Walks 422 1,010
Hits Allowed 2,388 3,074
Home Runs Allowed 285 288
Innings Pitched 2,198 3,473
ERA 4.27 3.33
WHIP 1.28 1.18
K/9 6.36 7.99
BB/9 1.73 2.62

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), John Smoltz outpaces Jon Lieber 91,907 to 27,226 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (4,178 vs 1,945 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Jon Lieber
27,226
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,945 per season (14 seasons)
John Smoltz
91,907
Career Pitcher PIV · 4,178 per season (22 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Jon Lieber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

20023.70 ERA6-8, 87 K in 141 IP
20013.80 ERA20-6, 148 K in 232 IP
19963.99 ERA9-5, 94 K in 142 IP

John Smoltz — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19922.85 ERA15-12, 215 K in 246 IP
19982.90 ERA17-3, 173 K in 167 IP
19892.94 ERA12-11, 168 K in 208 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, John Smoltz leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Jon Lieber owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to John Smoltz. PIV agrees: John Smoltz grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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