John Henry Lloyd vs Honus Wagner: Career Stats Comparison
John Henry Lloyd (1912–present) and Honus Wagner (1897–1917) — they broke in during the 1910s and the 1890s respectively, which makes the side-by-side worth doing carefully. John Henry Lloyd finished with 1,283 hits and 29 home runs; Honus Wagner finished with 3,420 hits and 101 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.
John Henry Lloyd
Honus Wagner
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate for John Henry Lloyd and Honus Wagner. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. Counting stats reward longevity; the rate stats at the bottom are era-agnostic.
| Statistic | John Henry Lloyd | Honus Wagner |
|---|---|---|
| Games | 981 | 2,794 |
| At-Bats | 3,731 | 10,439 |
| Runs | 641 | 1,739 |
| Hits | 1,283 | 3,420 |
| Doubles | 206 | 643 |
| Triples | 63 | 252 |
| Home Runs | 29 | 101 |
| RBI | 661 | 1,733 |
| Walks | 281 | 963 |
| Strikeouts | 8 | 735 |
| Stolen Bases | 136 | 723 |
| Batting Avg | .344 | .328 |
| On-Base % | .391 | .391 |
| Slugging % | .456 | .467 |
| OPS | .848 | .858 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Honus Wagner outpaces John Henry Lloyd 59,177 to 12,777 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (2,818 vs 456 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).
John Henry Lloyd — top 1 seasons by OPS
Honus Wagner — top 3 seasons by OPS
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Honus Wagner leads in hits, home runs, RBI, and runs, while John Henry Lloyd owns batting average and OBP. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Honus Wagner. PIV agrees: Honus Wagner grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.