Stu Miller vs Bobby Shantz: Career Stats Comparison

Stu Miller (1952–1968) and Bobby Shantz (1949–1964) — breaking in during the 1950s and the 1940s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Stu Miller compiled 105 wins and 1,164 strikeouts; Bobby Shantz put up 119 wins and 1,072 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Stu Miller

Pitcher · 1952–1968
Wins
105
Losses
103
Strikeouts
1,164
ERA
3.24
WHIP
1.25
IP
1,694
View Stu Miller's full profile →

Bobby Shantz

Pitcher · 1949–1964
Wins
119
Losses
99
Strikeouts
1,072
ERA
3.38
WHIP
1.26
IP
1,935
View Bobby Shantz's full profile →

Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Stu Miller Bobby Shantz
Wins 105 119
Losses 103 99
Games 704 537
Games Started 93 171
Complete Games 24 78
Shutouts 5 15
Saves 154 48
Strikeouts 1,164 1,072
Walks 600 643
Hits Allowed 1,522 1,795
Home Runs Allowed 140 151
Innings Pitched 1,694 1,935
ERA 3.24 3.38
WHIP 1.25 1.26
K/9 6.18 4.98
BB/9 3.19 2.99

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Bobby Shantz leads Stu Miller 24,845 to 20,349 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (1,308 vs 1,197 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Stu Miller
20,349
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,197 per season (17 seasons)
Bobby Shantz
24,845
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,308 per season (19 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Stu Miller — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19582.47 ERA6-9, 119 K in 182 IP
19612.66 ERA14-5, 89 K in 122 IP
19592.84 ERA8-7, 95 K in 167 IP

Bobby Shantz — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19572.45 ERA11-5, 72 K in 173 IP
19522.48 ERA24-7, 152 K in 279 IP
19583.36 ERA7-6, 80 K in 126 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Stu Miller leads in strikeouts, ERA, WHIP, and K/9, while Bobby Shantz owns wins and innings pitched. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Stu Miller. Note that PIV actually grades Bobby Shantz ahead, which means Stu Miller's edge is partly volume. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

Related Matchups