Ray Brown vs Dazzy Vance: Career Stats Comparison
Dazzy Vance has the better career line of the two, leading 10 of the 12 scored categories on this page (4 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Ray Brown played ?–1945 as a pitcher; Dazzy Vance played 1915–1935 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Ray Brown (?–1945) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) — they pitched in different contexts, so adjusted stats matter. Ray Brown finished with 123 wins and 726 strikeouts; Dazzy Vance finished with 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Quick answer
- Who had the better ERA? Ray Brown, with 3.21 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games? Dazzy Vance, with 197 to Ray Brown's 123.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Ray Brown's 726.
- Who had the better WHIP? Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Ray Brown's 1.24.
- Who pitched more innings? Dazzy Vance, with 2,966.2 to Ray Brown's 1,511.2.
- Who threw more shutouts? Dazzy Vance, with 29 to Ray Brown's 17.
- Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Dazzy Vance, with 70,553 career Pitcher PIV to Ray Brown's 30,490.
Dazzy Vance
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 12 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 4 are counting totals on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded them. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Ray Brown | Dazzy Vance |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 123 | Leads: 197 |
| Losses not scored | 47 | 140 |
| Games | 224 | Leads: 442 |
| Games Started | 163 | Leads: 347 |
| Complete Games | 142 | Leads: 216 |
| Shutouts | 17 | Leads: 29 |
| Saves | Leads: 15 | 11 |
| Strikeouts | 726 | Leads: 2,045 |
| Walks not scored | 430 | 840 |
| Hits Allowed not scored | 1,437 | 2,809 |
| Home Runs Allowed not scored | 40 | 132 |
| Innings Pitched | 1,511.2 | Leads: 2,966.2 |
| ERA | Leads: 3.21 | 3.24 |
| WHIP | 1.24 | Leads: 1.23 |
| K/9 | 4.32 | Leads: 6.20 |
| BB/9 | 2.56 | Leads: 2.55 |
PIV Comparison through 2025
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Ray Brown 70,553 to 30,490 — driven by both sides of the ledger: 3,920 PIV per season to 1,794, across 18 seasons to 17. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Ray Brown — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Dazzy Vance leads in wins, strikeouts, WHIP, and K/9, while Ray Brown owns ERA. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Dazzy Vance. PIV agrees: Dazzy Vance grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
Related Matchups
How the Ray Brown and Dazzy Vance careers compare
The two careers never overlapped: Dazzy Vance's ended in 1935, and Ray Brown debuted in 1945. The table compares 224 games of Ray Brown with 442 of Dazzy Vance across 17 and 18 PIV seasons; totals favor the longer career by default. The green cells for Ray Brown are saves (15 to 11) and ERA (3.21 to 3.24). The per-nine rows read 4.32 strikeouts and 2.56 walks for Ray Brown, 6.20 and 2.55 for Dazzy Vance. Both had the same role: Ray Brown was mainly a starter (163 starts in 224 games); Dazzy Vance was mainly a starter (347 starts in 442 games). In WHIP, Dazzy Vance's 1.23 beats Ray Brown's 1.24.
Ray Brown vs Dazzy Vance: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Ray Brown or Dazzy Vance?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Dazzy Vance leads Ray Brown in 10 of the 12 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Ray Brown, with 3.21 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games?
- Dazzy Vance, with 197 to Ray Brown's 123.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Ray Brown's 726.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Ray Brown's 1.24.