Lefty Grove vs Dazzy Vance: Career Stats Comparison
Lefty Grove has the better career line of the two, leading 5 of the 8 scored categories on this page (8 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Lefty Grove played 1925–1941 as a pitcher; Dazzy Vance played 1915–1935 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Lefty Grove (1925–1941) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) — they debuted in the 1920s and the 1910s respectively and share 11 seasons. Lefty Grove finished with 300 wins and 2,266 strikeouts; Dazzy Vance finished with 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts. The table below sets out their careers line by line.
Quick answer
- Who leads the career comparison? Lefty Grove, in 5 of the 8 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA? Lefty Grove, with 3.06 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games? Lefty Grove, with 300 to Dazzy Vance's 197.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Lefty Grove, with 2,266 to Dazzy Vance's 2,045.
- Who had the better WHIP? Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Lefty Grove's 1.28.
- How many innings did each pitch? Lefty Grove 3,940.2, Dazzy Vance 2,966.2.
- Who threw more shutouts? Lefty Grove, with 35 to Dazzy Vance's 29.
Lefty Grove
Dazzy Vance
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 8 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 8 are shown but not scored. Games, starts and innings measure playing time, and losses, walks and hits allowed track how long someone pitched, so they are left unmarked, as is any line where both players are at zero. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Lefty Grove | Dazzy Vance |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | Leads: 300 | 197 |
| Losses not scored | 141 | 140 |
| Games not scored | 616 | 442 |
| Games Started not scored | 457 | 347 |
| Complete Games | Leads: 298 | 216 |
| Shutouts | Leads: 35 | 29 |
| Saves not scored | 55 | 11 |
| Strikeouts | Leads: 2,266 | 2,045 |
| Walks not scored | 1,187 | 840 |
| Hits Allowed not scored | 3,849 | 2,809 |
| Home Runs Allowed not scored | 162 | 132 |
| Innings Pitched not scored | 3,940.2 | 2,966.2 |
| ERA | Leads: 3.06 | 3.24 |
| WHIP | 1.28 | Leads: 1.23 |
| K/9 | 5.18 | Leads: 6.20 |
| BB/9 | 2.71 | Leads: 2.55 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Lefty Grove leads Dazzy Vance 81,321 to 70,553 — driven by both sides of the ledger: 4,784 PIV per season to 4,410, across 17 seasons to 16. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Lefty Grove — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
Lefty Grove leads 5 of the 8 scored categories on the head-to-head card: wins, complete games, shutouts, strikeouts, and others. Dazzy Vance leads 3: WHIP, strikeouts per nine, and walks per nine. On the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Lefty Grove. PIV agrees: Lefty Grove grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
Related Matchups
How the Lefty Grove and Dazzy Vance careers compare
The careers of Lefty Grove (1925–1941) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) overlapped from 1925 to 1935, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. The two careers are close in length, 616 games for Lefty Grove and 442 for Dazzy Vance across 17 and 16 PIV seasons, so the totals compare on fairly even terms. The green cells for Dazzy Vance are WHIP (1.23 to 1.28), strikeouts per nine (6.20 to 5.18), and walks per nine (2.55 to 2.71). The per-nine rows read 5.18 strikeouts and 2.71 walks for Lefty Grove, 6.20 and 2.55 for Dazzy Vance.
Lefty Grove vs Dazzy Vance: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Lefty Grove or Dazzy Vance?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Lefty Grove leads Dazzy Vance in 5 of the 8 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Lefty Grove, with 3.06 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games?
- Lefty Grove, with 300 to Dazzy Vance's 197.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Lefty Grove, with 2,266 to Dazzy Vance's 2,045.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Lefty Grove's 1.28.