Eddie Cicotte vs Dazzy Vance: Career Stats Comparison

Eddie Cicotte (1905–1920) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) — breaking in during the 1900s and the 1910s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Eddie Cicotte compiled 209 wins and 1,374 strikeouts; Dazzy Vance put up 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Eddie Cicotte

Pitcher · 1905–1920
Wins
209
Losses
149
Strikeouts
1,374
ERA
2.38
WHIP
1.15
IP
3,226
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Dazzy Vance

Pitcher · 1915–1935
Wins
197
Losses
140
Strikeouts
2,045
ERA
3.24
WHIP
1.23
IP
2,966
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Eddie Cicotte Dazzy Vance
Wins 209 197
Losses 149 140
Games 502 442
Games Started 361 347
Complete Games 249 216
Shutouts 35 29
Saves 24 11
Strikeouts 1,374 2,045
Walks 827 840
Hits Allowed 2,897 2,809
Home Runs Allowed 32 132
Innings Pitched 3,226 2,966
ERA 2.38 3.24
WHIP 1.15 1.23
K/9 3.83 6.20
BB/9 2.31 2.55

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Eddie Cicotte 70,553 to 32,933 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (3,920 vs 2,196 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Eddie Cicotte
32,933
Career Pitcher PIV · 2,196 per season (15 seasons)
Dazzy Vance
70,553
Career Pitcher PIV · 3,920 per season (18 seasons)

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Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Eddie Cicotte — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19171.53 ERA28-12, 150 K in 346 IP
19131.58 ERA18-12, 121 K in 268 IP
19161.78 ERA15-7, 91 K in 187 IP

Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19282.09 ERA22-10, 200 K in 280 IP
19242.16 ERA28-6, 262 K in 308 IP
19302.61 ERA17-15, 173 K in 258 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Eddie Cicotte leads in wins, ERA, WHIP, and innings pitched, while Dazzy Vance owns strikeouts and K/9. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Eddie Cicotte. Note that PIV actually grades Dazzy Vance ahead, which means Eddie Cicotte's edge is partly volume. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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