Red Ehret vs Rube Waddell: Career Stats Comparison
Red Ehret (1888–1898) and Rube Waddell (1897–1910) — breaking in during the 1880s and the 1890s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Red Ehret compiled 139 wins and 848 strikeouts; Rube Waddell put up 193 wins and 2,316 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Rube Waddell
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.
| Statistic | Red Ehret | Rube Waddell |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 139 | 193 |
| Losses | 167 | 143 |
| Games | 362 | 407 |
| Games Started | 309 | 340 |
| Complete Games | 260 | 261 |
| Shutouts | 14 | 50 |
| Saves | 4 | 5 |
| Strikeouts | 848 | 2,316 |
| Walks | 841 | 803 |
| Hits Allowed | 3,172 | 2,460 |
| Home Runs Allowed | 63 | 37 |
| Innings Pitched | 2,754 | 2,961 |
| ERA | 4.02 | 2.16 |
| WHIP | 1.46 | 1.10 |
| K/9 | 2.77 | 7.04 |
| BB/9 | 2.75 | 2.44 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Rube Waddell outpaces Red Ehret 69,450 to 25,062 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (4,961 vs 2,278 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Red Ehret — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Rube Waddell — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Rube Waddell leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Red Ehret owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Rube Waddell. PIV agrees: Rube Waddell grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.