Toad Ramsey vs Cy Young: Career Stats Comparison

Toad Ramsey (1885–1890) and Cy Young (1890–1911) — breaking in during the 1880s and the 1890s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Toad Ramsey compiled 113 wins and 1,515 strikeouts; Cy Young put up 511 wins and 2,803 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Toad Ramsey

Pitcher · 1885–1890
Wins
113
Losses
124
Strikeouts
1,515
ERA
3.29
WHIP
1.24
IP
2,100
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Cy Young

Pitcher · 1890–1911
Wins
511
Losses
315
Strikeouts
2,803
ERA
2.63
WHIP
1.13
IP
7,356
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Toad Ramsey Cy Young
Wins 113 511
Losses 124 315
Games 248 906
Games Started 241 815
Complete Games 225 749
Shutouts 5 76
Saves 0 18
Strikeouts 1,515 2,803
Walks 671 1,217
Hits Allowed 1,941 7,092
Home Runs Allowed 40 138
Innings Pitched 2,100 7,356
ERA 3.29 2.63
WHIP 1.24 1.13
K/9 6.49 3.43
BB/9 2.87 1.49

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Cy Young outpaces Toad Ramsey 141,398 to 45,770 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (6,148 vs 6,539 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Toad Ramsey
45,770
Career Pitcher PIV · 6,539 per season (7 seasons)
Cy Young
141,398
Career Pitcher PIV · 6,148 per season (23 seasons)

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Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Toad Ramsey — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

18862.45 ERA38-27, 499 K in 588 IP
18883.42 ERA8-30, 228 K in 342 IP
18873.43 ERA37-27, 355 K in 561 IP

Cy Young — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19081.26 ERA21-11, 150 K in 299 IP
19011.62 ERA33-10, 158 K in 371 IP
19051.82 ERA18-19, 210 K in 320 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Cy Young leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Toad Ramsey owns K/9. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Cy Young. PIV agrees: Cy Young grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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