Eddie Cicotte vs Red Faber: Career Stats Comparison
Eddie Cicotte (1905–1920) and Red Faber (1914–1933) — breaking in during the 1900s and the 1910s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Eddie Cicotte compiled 209 wins and 1,374 strikeouts; Red Faber put up 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Eddie Cicotte
Red Faber
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.
| Statistic | Eddie Cicotte | Red Faber |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 209 | 254 |
| Losses | 149 | 213 |
| Games | 502 | 669 |
| Games Started | 361 | 483 |
| Complete Games | 249 | 273 |
| Shutouts | 35 | 29 |
| Saves | 24 | 28 |
| Strikeouts | 1,374 | 1,471 |
| Walks | 827 | 1,213 |
| Hits Allowed | 2,897 | 4,106 |
| Home Runs Allowed | 32 | 111 |
| Innings Pitched | 3,226 | 4,086 |
| ERA | 2.38 | 3.15 |
| WHIP | 1.15 | 1.30 |
| K/9 | 3.83 | 3.24 |
| BB/9 | 2.31 | 2.67 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Eddie Cicotte outpaces Red Faber 32,933 to 24,538 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (2,196 vs 1,227 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Eddie Cicotte — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Eddie Cicotte leads in ERA, WHIP, and K/9, while Red Faber owns wins, strikeouts, and innings pitched. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Eddie Cicotte. PIV agrees: Eddie Cicotte grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.