Red Faber vs Dazzy Vance: Career Stats Comparison
Red Faber (1914–1933) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) — both came up during the 1910s, so the matchup is a direct one. Red Faber compiled 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Dazzy Vance put up 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Red Faber
Dazzy Vance
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.
| Statistic | Red Faber | Dazzy Vance |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 254 | 197 |
| Losses | 213 | 140 |
| Games | 669 | 442 |
| Games Started | 483 | 347 |
| Complete Games | 273 | 216 |
| Shutouts | 29 | 29 |
| Saves | 28 | 11 |
| Strikeouts | 1,471 | 2,045 |
| Walks | 1,213 | 840 |
| Hits Allowed | 4,106 | 2,809 |
| Home Runs Allowed | 111 | 132 |
| Innings Pitched | 4,086 | 2,966 |
| ERA | 3.15 | 3.24 |
| WHIP | 1.30 | 1.23 |
| K/9 | 3.24 | 6.20 |
| BB/9 | 2.67 | 2.55 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Red Faber 70,553 to 24,538 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (3,920 vs 1,227 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Dazzy Vance leads in strikeouts, WHIP, and K/9, while Red Faber owns wins, ERA, and innings pitched. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Dazzy Vance. PIV agrees: Dazzy Vance grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.