Red Faber vs Dazzy Vance: Career Stats Comparison
Dazzy Vance has the better career line of the two, leading 4 of the 8 scored categories on this page (8 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Red Faber played 1914–1933 as a pitcher; Dazzy Vance played 1915–1935 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Red Faber (1914–1933) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) — both debuted in the 1910s. Red Faber finished with 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Dazzy Vance finished with 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts. The table below sets out their careers line by line.
Quick answer
- Who leads the career comparison? Dazzy Vance, in 4 of the 8 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA? Red Faber, with 3.15 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games? Red Faber, with 254 to Dazzy Vance's 197.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Red Faber's 1,471.
- Who had the better WHIP? Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Red Faber's 1.30.
- How many innings did each pitch? Red Faber 4,086.2, Dazzy Vance 2,966.2.
- Who threw more shutouts? Neither — both are at 29.
Red Faber
Dazzy Vance
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 8 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 8 are shown but not scored. Games, starts and innings measure playing time, and losses, walks and hits allowed track how long someone pitched, so they are left unmarked, as is any line where both players are at zero. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Red Faber | Dazzy Vance |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | Leads: 254 | 197 |
| Losses not scored | 213 | 140 |
| Games not scored | 669 | 442 |
| Games Started not scored | 483 | 347 |
| Complete Games | Leads: 273 | 216 |
| Shutouts | 29 | 29 |
| Saves not scored | 28 | 11 |
| Strikeouts | 1,471 | Leads: 2,045 |
| Walks not scored | 1,213 | 840 |
| Hits Allowed not scored | 4,106 | 2,809 |
| Home Runs Allowed not scored | 111 | 132 |
| Innings Pitched not scored | 4,086.2 | 2,966.2 |
| ERA | Leads: 3.15 | 3.24 |
| WHIP | 1.30 | Leads: 1.23 |
| K/9 | 3.24 | Leads: 6.20 |
| BB/9 | 2.67 | Leads: 2.55 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Red Faber 70,553 to 24,538 — driven by per-season impact — 4,410 PIV per season to 1,227 — rather than by longevity, since Dazzy Vance played 16 seasons to Red Faber's 20. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
Dazzy Vance leads 4 of the 8 scored categories on the head-to-head card: strikeouts, WHIP, strikeouts per nine, and walks per nine. Red Faber leads 3: wins, complete games, and ERA. 1 is tied. On the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Dazzy Vance. PIV agrees: Dazzy Vance grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
Related Matchups
How the Red Faber and Dazzy Vance careers compare
Red Faber and Dazzy Vance were active at the same time between 1915 and 1933. Playing time explains much of the gap in the counting rows: Red Faber appeared in 669 games to Dazzy Vance's 442. The green cells for Red Faber are wins (254 to 197), complete games (273 to 216), and ERA (3.15 to 3.24). By rate, Red Faber struck out 3.24 and walked 2.67 per nine innings; Dazzy Vance struck out 6.20 and walked 2.55. Both had the same role: Red Faber was mainly a starter (483 starts in 669 games); Dazzy Vance was mainly a starter (347 starts in 442 games).
Red Faber vs Dazzy Vance: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Red Faber or Dazzy Vance?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Dazzy Vance leads Red Faber in 4 of the 8 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Red Faber, with 3.15 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games?
- Red Faber, with 254 to Dazzy Vance's 197.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Red Faber's 1,471.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Red Faber's 1.30.