Red Faber vs Dazzy Vance: Career Stats Comparison
Red Faber has the better career line of the two, leading 7 of the 11 statistical categories compared on this page. Red Faber played 1914–1933 as a pitcher; Dazzy Vance played 1915–1935 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Red Faber (1914–1933) and Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) — both came up during the 1910s, so the matchup is a direct one. Red Faber compiled 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Dazzy Vance put up 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Quick answer
- Who had the better ERA? Red Faber, with 3.15 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games? Red Faber, with 254 to Dazzy Vance's 197.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Red Faber's 1,471.
- Who had the better WHIP? Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Red Faber's 1.30.
- Who pitched more innings? Red Faber, with 4,086 to Dazzy Vance's 2,966.
- Who threw more shutouts? Neither — both are at 29.
- Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Dazzy Vance, with 70,553 career Pitcher PIV to Red Faber's 24,538.
Red Faber
Dazzy Vance
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted: compare them with the era in mind, or use the PIV card below, which is.
| Statistic | Red Faber | Dazzy Vance |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | Leads: 254 | 197 |
| Losses | 213 | 140 |
| Games | Leads: 669 | 442 |
| Games Started | Leads: 483 | 347 |
| Complete Games | Leads: 273 | 216 |
| Shutouts | 29 | 29 |
| Saves | Leads: 28 | 11 |
| Strikeouts | 1,471 | Leads: 2,045 |
| Walks | 1,213 | 840 |
| Hits Allowed | 4,106 | 2,809 |
| Home Runs Allowed | 111 | 132 |
| Innings Pitched | Leads: 4,086 | 2,966 |
| ERA | Leads: 3.15 | 3.24 |
| WHIP | 1.30 | Leads: 1.23 |
| K/9 | 3.24 | Leads: 6.20 |
| BB/9 | 2.67 | Leads: 2.55 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Red Faber 70,553 to 24,538 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (3,920 vs 1,227 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Dazzy Vance leads in strikeouts, WHIP, and K/9, while Red Faber owns wins, ERA, and innings pitched. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Dazzy Vance. PIV agrees: Dazzy Vance grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
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Red Faber vs Dazzy Vance: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Red Faber or Dazzy Vance?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Red Faber leads Dazzy Vance in 7 of 11 categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Red Faber, with 3.15 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games?
- Red Faber, with 254 to Dazzy Vance's 197.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Red Faber's 1,471.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Dazzy Vance, with 1.23 to Red Faber's 1.30.