Red Faber vs Walter Johnson: Career Stats Comparison
Walter Johnson has the better career line of the two, leading 12 of the 12 statistical categories compared on this page. Red Faber played 1914–1933 as a pitcher; Walter Johnson played 1907–1927 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Red Faber (1914–1933) and Walter Johnson (1907–1927) — breaking in during the 1910s and the 1900s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Red Faber compiled 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Walter Johnson put up 417 wins and 3,509 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Quick answer
- Who had the better ERA? Walter Johnson, with 2.17 to Red Faber's 3.15.
- Who won more games? Walter Johnson, with 417 to Red Faber's 254.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Walter Johnson, with 3,509 to Red Faber's 1,471.
- Who had the better WHIP? Walter Johnson, with 1.06 to Red Faber's 1.30.
- Who pitched more innings? Walter Johnson, with 5,914 to Red Faber's 4,086.
- Who threw more shutouts? Walter Johnson, with 110 to Red Faber's 29.
- Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Walter Johnson, with 124,021 career Pitcher PIV to Red Faber's 24,538.
Red Faber
Walter Johnson
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted: compare them with the era in mind, or use the PIV card below, which is.
| Statistic | Red Faber | Walter Johnson |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 254 | Leads: 417 |
| Losses | 213 | 279 |
| Games | 669 | Leads: 802 |
| Games Started | 483 | Leads: 666 |
| Complete Games | 273 | Leads: 531 |
| Shutouts | 29 | Leads: 110 |
| Saves | 28 | Leads: 34 |
| Strikeouts | 1,471 | Leads: 3,509 |
| Walks | 1,213 | 1,363 |
| Hits Allowed | 4,106 | 4,913 |
| Home Runs Allowed | 111 | 97 |
| Innings Pitched | 4,086 | Leads: 5,914 |
| ERA | 3.15 | Leads: 2.17 |
| WHIP | 1.30 | Leads: 1.06 |
| K/9 | 3.24 | Leads: 5.34 |
| BB/9 | 2.67 | Leads: 2.07 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Walter Johnson outpaces Red Faber 124,021 to 24,538 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (5,906 vs 1,227 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Walter Johnson — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Walter Johnson leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Red Faber owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Walter Johnson. PIV agrees: Walter Johnson grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
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Red Faber vs Walter Johnson: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Red Faber or Walter Johnson?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Walter Johnson leads Red Faber in 12 of 12 categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Walter Johnson, with 2.17 to Red Faber's 3.15.
- Who won more games?
- Walter Johnson, with 417 to Red Faber's 254.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Walter Johnson, with 3,509 to Red Faber's 1,471.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Walter Johnson, with 1.06 to Red Faber's 1.30.