Red Faber vs Herb Pennock: Career Stats Comparison

Red Faber (1914–1933) and Herb Pennock (1912–1934) — both came up during the 1910s, so the matchup is a direct one. Red Faber compiled 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Herb Pennock put up 240 wins and 1,227 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Red Faber

Pitcher · 1914–1933
Wins
254
Losses
213
Strikeouts
1,471
ERA
3.15
WHIP
1.30
IP
4,086
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Herb Pennock

Pitcher · 1912–1934
Wins
240
Losses
162
Strikeouts
1,227
ERA
3.60
WHIP
1.35
IP
3,571
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Red Faber Herb Pennock
Wins 254 240
Losses 213 162
Games 669 617
Games Started 483 420
Complete Games 273 247
Shutouts 29 35
Saves 28 32
Strikeouts 1,471 1,227
Walks 1,213 916
Hits Allowed 4,106 3,900
Home Runs Allowed 111 128
Innings Pitched 4,086 3,571
ERA 3.15 3.60
WHIP 1.30 1.35
K/9 3.24 3.09
BB/9 2.67 2.31

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Herb Pennock leads Red Faber 29,181 to 24,538 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (1,269 vs 1,227 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Red Faber
24,538
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,227 per season (20 seasons)
Herb Pennock
29,181
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,269 per season (23 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19171.92 ERA16-13, 84 K in 248 IP
19162.02 ERA17-9, 87 K in 205 IP
19212.48 ERA25-15, 124 K in 330 IP

Herb Pennock — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19282.56 ERA17-6, 53 K in 211 IP
19192.71 ERA16-8, 70 K in 219 IP
19142.79 ERA11-4, 90 K in 151 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Red Faber leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Herb Pennock owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Red Faber. Note that PIV actually grades Herb Pennock ahead, which means Red Faber's edge is partly volume. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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