Red Faber vs Waite Hoyt: Career Stats Comparison
Red Faber (1914–1933) and Waite Hoyt (1918–1938) — both came up during the 1910s, so the matchup is a direct one. Red Faber compiled 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Waite Hoyt put up 237 wins and 1,206 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Red Faber
Waite Hoyt
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.
| Statistic | Red Faber | Waite Hoyt |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 254 | 237 |
| Losses | 213 | 182 |
| Games | 669 | 674 |
| Games Started | 483 | 423 |
| Complete Games | 273 | 226 |
| Shutouts | 29 | 26 |
| Saves | 28 | 52 |
| Strikeouts | 1,471 | 1,206 |
| Walks | 1,213 | 1,003 |
| Hits Allowed | 4,106 | 4,037 |
| Home Runs Allowed | 111 | 154 |
| Innings Pitched | 4,086 | 3,762 |
| ERA | 3.15 | 3.59 |
| WHIP | 1.30 | 1.34 |
| K/9 | 3.24 | 2.88 |
| BB/9 | 2.67 | 2.40 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Waite Hoyt leads Red Faber 27,173 to 24,538 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (1,087 vs 1,227 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Waite Hoyt — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Red Faber leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Waite Hoyt owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Red Faber. Note that PIV actually grades Waite Hoyt ahead, which means Red Faber's edge is partly volume. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.