Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Career Stats Comparison
Joe Kelley has the better career line of the two, leading 14 of the 14 statistical categories compared on this page. Elmer Flick played 1898–1910 as a hitter; Joe Kelley played 1891–1908 as a hitter.
- AVG (Batting Average):
- Hits divided by at bats. .300 is the traditional mark of an excellent hitter.
- HR (Home Runs):
- Hits on which the batter circled the bases and scored, almost always by clearing the outfield fence.
- RBI (Runs Batted In):
- Runs that scored as a direct result of a batter's plate appearance.
- OPS (On-Base Plus Slugging):
- On-base percentage plus slugging percentage, the quickest single summary of offensive value. .900 or better is star-level.
Data updated
Elmer Flick (1898–1910) and Joe Kelley (1891–1908) — both broke in during the 1890s, which makes the head-to-head feel like a contemporaries' debate. Elmer Flick finished with 1,752 hits and 48 home runs; Joe Kelley finished with 2,220 hits and 65 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.
Quick answer
- Who hit more home runs? Joe Kelley, with 65 to Elmer Flick's 48.
- Who had the higher OPS? Joe Kelley, with .853 to Elmer Flick's .834.
- Who had the higher batting average? Joe Kelley, with .317 to Elmer Flick's .313.
- Who had more hits? Joe Kelley, with 2,220 to Elmer Flick's 1,752.
- Who drove in more runs? Joe Kelley, with 1,194 to Elmer Flick's 756.
- Who has the higher career PIV? Joe Kelley, with 32,092 career PIV to Elmer Flick's 29,192.
Elmer Flick
Joe Kelley
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate for Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. Counting stats reward longevity, and strikeouts are left unmarked because a longer career accumulates more of them. Rate stats are not era-adjusted -- a .305 in 1965 and a .298 in 2001 came out of very different run environments -- so read them against their eras, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Elmer Flick | Joe Kelley |
|---|---|---|
| Games | 1,483 | Leads: 1,853 |
| At-Bats | 5,597 | Leads: 7,006 |
| Runs | 950 | Leads: 1,421 |
| Hits | 1,752 | Leads: 2,220 |
| Doubles | 268 | Leads: 358 |
| Triples | 164 | Leads: 194 |
| Home Runs | 48 | Leads: 65 |
| RBI | 756 | Leads: 1,194 |
| Walks | 597 | Leads: 911 |
| Strikeouts | 567 | 430 |
| Stolen Bases | 330 | Leads: 443 |
| Batting Avg | .313 | Leads: .317 |
| On-Base % | .389 | Leads: .402 |
| Slugging % | .445 | Leads: .451 |
| OPS | .834 | Leads: .853 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Joe Kelley leads Elmer Flick 32,092 to 29,192 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (1,689 vs 2,085 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).
Elmer Flick — top 3 seasons by OPS
Joe Kelley — top 3 seasons by OPS
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Joe Kelley leads in hits, home runs, RBI, and runs, while Elmer Flick owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Joe Kelley. PIV agrees: Joe Kelley grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
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Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Elmer Flick or Joe Kelley?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Joe Kelley leads Elmer Flick in 14 of 14 categories.
- Did Elmer Flick or Joe Kelley hit more home runs?
- Joe Kelley, with 65 to Elmer Flick's 48.
- Who had the higher OPS?
- Joe Kelley, with .853 to Elmer Flick's .834.
- Who had the higher batting average?
- Joe Kelley, with .317 to Elmer Flick's .313.
- Who had more hits?
- Joe Kelley, with 2,220 to Elmer Flick's 1,752.