Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Career Stats Comparison
Joe Kelley has the better career line of the two, leading 12 of the 12 scored categories on this page (3 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Elmer Flick played 1898–1910 as a hitter; Joe Kelley played 1891–1908 as a hitter.
- AVG (Batting Average):
- Hits divided by at bats. .300 is the traditional mark of an excellent hitter.
- HR (Home Runs):
- Hits on which the batter circled the bases and scored, almost always by clearing the outfield fence.
- RBI (Runs Batted In):
- Runs that scored as a direct result of a batter's plate appearance.
- OPS (On-Base Plus Slugging):
- On-base percentage plus slugging percentage, the quickest single summary of offensive value. .900 or better is star-level.
Data updated
Elmer Flick (1898–1910) and Joe Kelley (1891–1908) — both debuted in the 1890s. Elmer Flick finished with 1,752 hits and 48 home runs; Joe Kelley finished with 2,220 hits and 65 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.
Quick answer
- Who leads the career comparison? Joe Kelley, in 12 of the 12 scored categories.
- Who hit more home runs? Joe Kelley, with 65 to Elmer Flick's 48.
- Who had the higher OPS? Joe Kelley, with .853 to Elmer Flick's .834.
- Who had the higher batting average? Joe Kelley, with .317 to Elmer Flick's .313.
- Who had more hits? Joe Kelley, with 2,220 to Elmer Flick's 1,752.
- Who drove in more runs? Joe Kelley, with 1,194 to Elmer Flick's 756.
- Who has the higher career PIV? Joe Kelley, with 32,092 career PIV to Elmer Flick's 29,192.
Elmer Flick
Joe Kelley
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate for Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. 12 of the 15 lines below are scored; the other 3 are shown but not scored. Games and at-bats measure playing time, strikeouts accumulate with a longer career, and a line where both players are at zero was won by neither, so those are left unmarked. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Elmer Flick | Joe Kelley |
|---|---|---|
| Games not scored | 1,483 | 1,853 |
| At-Bats not scored | 5,597 | 7,006 |
| Runs | 950 | Leads: 1,421 |
| Hits | 1,752 | Leads: 2,220 |
| Doubles | 268 | Leads: 358 |
| Triples | 164 | Leads: 194 |
| Home Runs | 48 | Leads: 65 |
| RBI | 756 | Leads: 1,194 |
| Walks | 597 | Leads: 911 |
| Strikeouts not scored | 567 | 430 |
| Stolen Bases | 330 | Leads: 443 |
| Batting Avg | .313 | Leads: .317 |
| On-Base % | .389 | Leads: .402 |
| Slugging % | .445 | Leads: .451 |
| OPS | .834 | Leads: .853 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Joe Kelley leads Elmer Flick 32,092 to 29,192 — a longevity gap rather than a per-season one: Joe Kelley played 17 seasons to Elmer Flick's 13, while Elmer Flick carries the higher per-season figure (2,246 to 1,888). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).
Elmer Flick — top 3 seasons by OPS
Joe Kelley — top 3 seasons by OPS
Verdict
Joe Kelley leads 12 of the 12 scored categories on the head-to-head card: runs, hits, doubles, triples, and others. Elmer Flick leads 0: no scored category. On the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Joe Kelley. PIV agrees: Joe Kelley grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
Related Matchups
How the Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley careers compare
Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley were active at the same time between 1898 and 1908. With 1,483 games against 1,853 across 13 and 17 PIV seasons, neither player's totals owe much to extra seasons. Every scored category on the table goes to Joe Kelley. Elmer Flick walked more often than struck out (597 walks, 567 strikeouts); Joe Kelley walked more often than struck out (911 walks, 430 strikeouts). On the bases, Joe Kelley stole more often per game played (330 steals in 1,483 games for Elmer Flick, 443 in 1,853 for Joe Kelley).
Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Elmer Flick or Joe Kelley?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Joe Kelley leads Elmer Flick in 12 of the 12 scored categories.
- Did Elmer Flick or Joe Kelley hit more home runs?
- Joe Kelley, with 65 to Elmer Flick's 48.
- Who had the higher OPS?
- Joe Kelley, with .853 to Elmer Flick's .834.
- Who had the higher batting average?
- Joe Kelley, with .317 to Elmer Flick's .313.
- Who had more hits?
- Joe Kelley, with 2,220 to Elmer Flick's 1,752.