Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Career Stats Comparison

Joe Kelley has the better career line of the two, leading 12 of the 12 scored categories on this page (3 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Elmer Flick played 1898–1910 as a hitter; Joe Kelley played 1891–1908 as a hitter.

AVG (Batting Average):
Hits divided by at bats. .300 is the traditional mark of an excellent hitter.
HR (Home Runs):
Hits on which the batter circled the bases and scored, almost always by clearing the outfield fence.
RBI (Runs Batted In):
Runs that scored as a direct result of a batter's plate appearance.
OPS (On-Base Plus Slugging):
On-base percentage plus slugging percentage, the quickest single summary of offensive value. .900 or better is star-level.

Data updated

Elmer Flick (1898–1910) and Joe Kelley (1891–1908) — both debuted in the 1890s. Elmer Flick finished with 1,752 hits and 48 home runs; Joe Kelley finished with 2,220 hits and 65 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.

Quick answer

  • Who leads the career comparison? Joe Kelley, in 12 of the 12 scored categories.
  • Who hit more home runs? Joe Kelley, with 65 to Elmer Flick's 48.
  • Who had the higher OPS? Joe Kelley, with .853 to Elmer Flick's .834.
  • Who had the higher batting average? Joe Kelley, with .317 to Elmer Flick's .313.
  • Who had more hits? Joe Kelley, with 2,220 to Elmer Flick's 1,752.
  • Who drove in more runs? Joe Kelley, with 1,194 to Elmer Flick's 756.
  • Who has the higher career PIV? Joe Kelley, with 32,092 career PIV to Elmer Flick's 29,192.
Leads Joe Kelley 12 of 12 scored categories
PIV edge Joe Kelley +2,900
Read the verdict ↓

Elmer Flick

Hitter · 1898–1910
Games
1,483
Hits
1,752
Home Runs
48
RBI
756
Avg
.313
OPS
.834
View Elmer Flick's full profile →

Joe Kelley

Hitter · 1891–1908
Games
1,853
Hits
2,220
Home Runs
65
RBI
1,194
Avg
.317
OPS
.853
View Joe Kelley's full profile →

Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate for Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. 12 of the 15 lines below are scored; the other 3 are shown but not scored. Games and at-bats measure playing time, strikeouts accumulate with a longer career, and a line where both players are at zero was won by neither, so those are left unmarked. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.

Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Career Stats Comparison — Career Stats Side-by-Side
Statistic Elmer Flick Joe Kelley
Games not scored 1,483 1,853
At-Bats not scored 5,597 7,006
Runs 950 Leads: 1,421
Hits 1,752 Leads: 2,220
Doubles 268 Leads: 358
Triples 164 Leads: 194
Home Runs 48 Leads: 65
RBI 756 Leads: 1,194
Walks 597 Leads: 911
Strikeouts not scored 567 430
Stolen Bases 330 Leads: 443
Batting Avg .313 Leads: .317
On-Base % .389 Leads: .402
Slugging % .445 Leads: .451
OPS .834 Leads: .853

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Joe Kelley leads Elmer Flick 32,092 to 29,192 — a longevity gap rather than a per-season one: Joe Kelley played 17 seasons to Elmer Flick's 13, while Elmer Flick carries the higher per-season figure (2,246 to 1,888). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Elmer Flick
29,192
Career PIV · 2,246 per season (13 seasons)
Joe Kelley
32,092
Career PIV · 1,888 per season (17 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).

Elmer Flick — top 3 seasons by OPS

1900.986 OPS11 HR, 110 RBI, .367 avg
1901.899 OPS8 HR, 88 RBI, .333 avg
1898.878 OPS8 HR, 81 RBI, .302 avg

Joe Kelley — top 3 seasons by OPS

18941.104 OPS6 HR, 111 RBI, .393 avg
18961.013 OPS8 HR, 100 RBI, .364 avg
18951.003 OPS10 HR, 134 RBI, .365 avg

Verdict

Joe Kelley leads 12 of the 12 scored categories on the head-to-head card: runs, hits, doubles, triples, and others. Elmer Flick leads 0: no scored category. On the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Joe Kelley. PIV agrees: Joe Kelley grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

Related Matchups

How the Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley careers compare

Elmer Flick and Joe Kelley were active at the same time between 1898 and 1908. With 1,483 games against 1,853 across 13 and 17 PIV seasons, neither player's totals owe much to extra seasons. Every scored category on the table goes to Joe Kelley. Elmer Flick walked more often than struck out (597 walks, 567 strikeouts); Joe Kelley walked more often than struck out (911 walks, 430 strikeouts). On the bases, Joe Kelley stole more often per game played (330 steals in 1,483 games for Elmer Flick, 443 in 1,853 for Joe Kelley).

Elmer Flick vs Joe Kelley: Frequently Asked Questions

Who was better, Elmer Flick or Joe Kelley?
By the career statistics compared on this page, Joe Kelley leads Elmer Flick in 12 of the 12 scored categories.
Did Elmer Flick or Joe Kelley hit more home runs?
Joe Kelley, with 65 to Elmer Flick's 48.
Who had the higher OPS?
Joe Kelley, with .853 to Elmer Flick's .834.
Who had the higher batting average?
Joe Kelley, with .317 to Elmer Flick's .313.
Who had more hits?
Joe Kelley, with 2,220 to Elmer Flick's 1,752.