John Franco vs Bruce Sutter: Career Stats Comparison
John Franco has the better career line of the two, leading 5 of the 12 scored categories on this page (4 further counting totals are shown but not scored). John Franco played 1984–2005 as a pitcher; Bruce Sutter played 1976–1988 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
John Franco (1984–2005) and Bruce Sutter (1976–1988) — breaking in during the 1980s and the 1970s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. John Franco finished with 90 wins and 975 strikeouts; Bruce Sutter finished with 68 wins and 861 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Quick answer
- Who had the better ERA? Bruce Sutter, with 2.83 to John Franco's 2.89.
- Who won more games? John Franco, with 90 to Bruce Sutter's 68.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? John Franco, with 975 to Bruce Sutter's 861.
- Who had the better WHIP? Bruce Sutter, with 1.14 to John Franco's 1.33.
- Who pitched more innings? John Franco, with 1,245.2 to Bruce Sutter's 1,042.0.
- Who threw more shutouts? Neither — both are at 0.
- Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Bruce Sutter, with 23,292 career Pitcher PIV to John Franco's 22,498.
John Franco
Bruce Sutter
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 12 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 4 are counting totals on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded them. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, and the 1980s and the 1970s were different run environments, so read them against their eras, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | John Franco | Bruce Sutter |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | Leads: 90 | 68 |
| Losses not scored | 87 | 71 |
| Games | Leads: 1,119 | 661 |
| Games Started | 0 | 0 |
| Complete Games | 0 | 0 |
| Shutouts | 0 | 0 |
| Saves | Leads: 424 | 300 |
| Strikeouts | Leads: 975 | 861 |
| Walks not scored | 495 | 309 |
| Hits Allowed not scored | 1,166 | 879 |
| Home Runs Allowed not scored | 81 | 77 |
| Innings Pitched | Leads: 1,245.2 | 1,042.0 |
| ERA | 2.89 | Leads: 2.83 |
| WHIP | 1.33 | Leads: 1.14 |
| K/9 | 7.04 | Leads: 7.44 |
| BB/9 | 3.58 | Leads: 2.67 |
PIV Comparison through 2025
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Bruce Sutter edges John Franco 23,292 to 22,498 — driven by per-season impact — 1,941 PIV per season to 1,071 — rather than by longevity, since Bruce Sutter played 12 seasons to John Franco's 21. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
John Franco
No seasons meet the qualifying workload, so there is no peak-season list to show.
Bruce Sutter — top 1 season by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Bruce Sutter leads in ERA, WHIP, and K/9, while John Franco owns wins, strikeouts, and innings pitched. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Bruce Sutter. PIV agrees: Bruce Sutter grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
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How the John Franco and Bruce Sutter careers compare
John Franco and Bruce Sutter were active at the same time between 1984 and 1988. The table compares 1,119 games of John Franco with 661 of Bruce Sutter across 21 and 12 PIV seasons; totals favor the longer career by default. Bruce Sutter's edges on the table are ERA (2.83 to 2.89), WHIP (1.14 to 1.33), and strikeouts per nine (7.44 to 7.04). By rate, John Franco struck out 7.04 and walked 3.58 per nine innings; Bruce Sutter struck out 7.44 and walked 2.67. John Franco worked mostly in relief (0 starts in 1,119 games, 424 saves), and Bruce Sutter worked mostly in relief (0 starts in 661 games, 300 saves).
John Franco vs Bruce Sutter: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, John Franco or Bruce Sutter?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, John Franco leads Bruce Sutter in 5 of the 12 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Bruce Sutter, with 2.83 to John Franco's 2.89.
- Who won more games?
- John Franco, with 90 to Bruce Sutter's 68.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- John Franco, with 975 to Bruce Sutter's 861.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Bruce Sutter, with 1.14 to John Franco's 1.33.