Cliff Lee vs John Smoltz: Career Stats Comparison

Cliff Lee (2002–2014) and John Smoltz (1988–2009) — breaking in during the 2000s and the 1980s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Cliff Lee compiled 143 wins and 1,824 strikeouts; John Smoltz put up 213 wins and 3,084 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Cliff Lee

Pitcher · 2002–2014
Wins
143
Losses
91
Strikeouts
1,824
ERA
3.52
WHIP
1.20
IP
2,156
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John Smoltz

Pitcher · 1988–2009
Wins
213
Losses
155
Strikeouts
3,084
ERA
3.33
WHIP
1.18
IP
3,473
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. For pitchers, lower ERA, WHIP, and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads.

Statistic Cliff Lee John Smoltz
Wins 143 213
Losses 91 155
Games 328 723
Games Started 324 481
Complete Games 29 53
Shutouts 12 16
Saves 0 154
Strikeouts 1,824 3,084
Walks 464 1,010
Hits Allowed 2,116 3,074
Home Runs Allowed 223 288
Innings Pitched 2,156 3,473
ERA 3.52 3.33
WHIP 1.20 1.18
K/9 7.61 7.99
BB/9 1.94 2.62

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), John Smoltz outpaces Cliff Lee 91,907 to 41,719 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (4,178 vs 2,781 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Cliff Lee
41,719
Career Pitcher PIV · 2,781 per season (15 seasons)
John Smoltz
91,907
Career Pitcher PIV · 4,178 per season (22 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Cliff Lee — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

20112.40 ERA17-8, 238 K in 232 IP
20082.54 ERA22-3, 170 K in 223 IP
20132.87 ERA14-8, 222 K in 222 IP

John Smoltz — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19922.85 ERA15-12, 215 K in 246 IP
19982.90 ERA17-3, 173 K in 167 IP
19892.94 ERA12-11, 168 K in 208 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, John Smoltz leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Cliff Lee owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to John Smoltz. PIV agrees: John Smoltz grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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