Juan Marichal vs Bob Veale: Career Stats Comparison
Juan Marichal has the better career line of the two, leading 7 of the 8 scored categories on this page (8 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Juan Marichal played 1960–1975 as a pitcher; Bob Veale played 1962–1974 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Juan Marichal (1960–1975) and Bob Veale (1962–1974) — both debuted in the 1960s. Juan Marichal finished with 243 wins and 2,303 strikeouts; Bob Veale finished with 120 wins and 1,703 strikeouts. The table below sets out their careers line by line.
Quick answer
- Who leads the career comparison? Juan Marichal, in 7 of the 8 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA? Juan Marichal, with 2.89 to Bob Veale's 3.07.
- Who won more games? Juan Marichal, with 243 to Bob Veale's 120.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Juan Marichal, with 2,303 to Bob Veale's 1,703.
- Who had the better WHIP? Juan Marichal, with 1.10 to Bob Veale's 1.32.
- How many innings did each pitch? Juan Marichal 3,507.1, Bob Veale 1,926.0.
- Who threw more shutouts? Juan Marichal, with 52 to Bob Veale's 20.
Juan Marichal
Bob Veale
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 8 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 8 are shown but not scored. Games, starts and innings measure playing time, and losses, walks and hits allowed track how long someone pitched, so they are left unmarked, as is any line where both players are at zero. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Juan Marichal | Bob Veale |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | Leads: 243 | 120 |
| Losses not scored | 142 | 95 |
| Games not scored | 471 | 397 |
| Games Started not scored | 457 | 255 |
| Complete Games | Leads: 244 | 78 |
| Shutouts | Leads: 52 | 20 |
| Saves not scored | 2 | 21 |
| Strikeouts | Leads: 2,303 | 1,703 |
| Walks not scored | 709 | 858 |
| Hits Allowed not scored | 3,153 | 1,684 |
| Home Runs Allowed not scored | 320 | 91 |
| Innings Pitched not scored | 3,507.1 | 1,926.0 |
| ERA | Leads: 2.89 | 3.07 |
| WHIP | Leads: 1.10 | 1.32 |
| K/9 | 5.91 | Leads: 7.96 |
| BB/9 | Leads: 1.82 | 4.01 |
PIV Comparison
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Juan Marichal outpaces Bob Veale 48,870 to 36,615 — driven by both sides of the ledger: 3,054 PIV per season to 2,817, across 16 seasons to 13. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Juan Marichal — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Bob Veale — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
Juan Marichal leads 7 of the 8 scored categories on the head-to-head card: wins, complete games, shutouts, strikeouts, and others. Bob Veale leads 1: strikeouts per nine. On the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Juan Marichal. PIV agrees: Juan Marichal grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
Related Matchups
How the Juan Marichal and Bob Veale careers compare
The careers of Juan Marichal (1960–1975) and Bob Veale (1962–1974) overlapped from 1962 to 1974, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. With 471 games against 397 across 16 and 13 PIV seasons, neither player's totals owe much to extra seasons. Bob Veale's edges on the table are strikeouts per nine (7.96 to 5.91). The per-nine rows read 5.91 strikeouts and 1.82 walks for Juan Marichal, 7.96 and 4.01 for Bob Veale. Their roles differ: Juan Marichal was mainly a starter (457 starts in 471 games); Bob Veale split time between starting and relief (255 starts in 397 games). Complete games (244 to 78) show how differently the two eras used starters.
Juan Marichal vs Bob Veale: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Juan Marichal or Bob Veale?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Juan Marichal leads Bob Veale in 7 of the 8 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Juan Marichal, with 2.89 to Bob Veale's 3.07.
- Who won more games?
- Juan Marichal, with 243 to Bob Veale's 120.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Juan Marichal, with 2,303 to Bob Veale's 1,703.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Juan Marichal, with 1.10 to Bob Veale's 1.32.