Jim Palmer vs Don Sutton: Career Stats Comparison

Don Sutton has the better career line of the two, leading 10 of the 12 scored categories on this page (4 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Jim Palmer played 1965–1984 as a pitcher; Don Sutton played 1966–1988 as a pitcher.

ERA (Earned Run Average):
Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
W (Wins):
Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
SO (Strikeouts):
For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.

Data updated

Jim Palmer (1965–1984) and Don Sutton (1966–1988) — both came up during the 1960s, so the matchup is a direct one. Jim Palmer finished with 268 wins and 2,212 strikeouts; Don Sutton finished with 324 wins and 3,574 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Quick answer

  • Who had the better ERA? Jim Palmer, with 2.86 to Don Sutton's 3.26.
  • Who won more games? Don Sutton, with 324 to Jim Palmer's 268.
  • Who recorded more strikeouts? Don Sutton, with 3,574 to Jim Palmer's 2,212.
  • Who had the better WHIP? Don Sutton, with 1.14 to Jim Palmer's 1.18.
  • Who pitched more innings? Don Sutton, with 5,282.1 to Jim Palmer's 3,948.0.
  • Who threw more shutouts? Don Sutton, with 58 to Jim Palmer's 53.
  • Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Don Sutton, with 63,310 career Pitcher PIV to Jim Palmer's 19,502.
Leads Don Sutton 10 of 12 scored categories
Pitcher PIV edge Don Sutton +43,808
Read the verdict ↓

Jim Palmer

Pitcher · 1965–1984
Wins
268
Losses
152
Strikeouts
2,212
ERA
2.86
WHIP
1.18
IP
3,948.0
View Jim Palmer's full profile →

Don Sutton

Pitcher · 1966–1988
Wins
324
Losses
256
Strikeouts
3,574
ERA
3.26
WHIP
1.14
IP
5,282.1
View Don Sutton's full profile →

Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 12 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 4 are counting totals on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded them. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.

Jim Palmer vs Don Sutton: Career Stats Comparison — Career Stats Side-by-Side
Statistic Jim Palmer Don Sutton
Wins 268 Leads: 324
Losses not scored 152 256
Games 558 Leads: 774
Games Started 521 Leads: 756
Complete Games Leads: 211 178
Shutouts 53 Leads: 58
Saves 4 Leads: 5
Strikeouts 2,212 Leads: 3,574
Walks not scored 1,311 1,343
Hits Allowed not scored 3,349 4,692
Home Runs Allowed not scored 303 472
Innings Pitched 3,948.0 Leads: 5,282.1
ERA Leads: 2.86 3.26
WHIP 1.18 Leads: 1.14
K/9 5.04 Leads: 6.09
BB/9 2.99 Leads: 2.29

PIV Comparison through 2025

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Don Sutton outpaces Jim Palmer 63,310 to 19,502 — driven by both sides of the ledger: 2,532 PIV per season to 1,026, across 25 seasons to 19. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.

Jim Palmer
19,502
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,026 per season (19 seasons)
Don Sutton
63,310
Career Pitcher PIV · 2,532 per season (25 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Jim Palmer — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19722.07 ERA21-10, 184 K in 274 IP
19752.09 ERA23-11, 193 K in 323 IP
19692.34 ERA16-4, 123 K in 181 IP

Don Sutton — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19722.08 ERA19-9, 207 K in 272 IP
19802.20 ERA13-5, 128 K in 212 IP
19732.42 ERA18-10, 200 K in 256 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Don Sutton leads in wins, strikeouts, WHIP, and K/9, while Jim Palmer owns ERA. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Don Sutton. PIV agrees: Don Sutton grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

Related Matchups

How the Jim Palmer and Don Sutton careers compare

The careers of Jim Palmer (1965–1984) and Don Sutton (1966–1988) overlapped from 1966 to 1984, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. The two careers are close in length, 558 games for Jim Palmer and 774 for Don Sutton across 19 and 25 PIV seasons, so the totals compare on fairly even terms. Where Jim Palmer comes out ahead, it is in complete games (211 to 178) and ERA (2.86 to 3.26). The per-nine rows read 5.04 strikeouts and 2.99 walks for Jim Palmer, 6.09 and 2.29 for Don Sutton.

Jim Palmer vs Don Sutton: Frequently Asked Questions

Who was better, Jim Palmer or Don Sutton?
By the career statistics compared on this page, Don Sutton leads Jim Palmer in 10 of the 12 scored categories.
Who had the better ERA?
Jim Palmer, with 2.86 to Don Sutton's 3.26.
Who won more games?
Don Sutton, with 324 to Jim Palmer's 268.
Who recorded more strikeouts?
Don Sutton, with 3,574 to Jim Palmer's 2,212.
Who had the better WHIP?
Don Sutton, with 1.14 to Jim Palmer's 1.18.

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