Dazzy Vance vs Joe Williams: Career Stats Comparison

Dazzy Vance has the better career line of the two, leading 9 of the 12 scored categories on this page (4 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Dazzy Vance played 1915–1935 as a pitcher; Joe Williams played ?–1932 as a pitcher.

ERA (Earned Run Average):
Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
W (Wins):
Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
SO (Strikeouts):
For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.

Data updated

Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) and Joe Williams (?–1932) — they pitched in different contexts, so adjusted stats matter. Dazzy Vance finished with 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts; Joe Williams finished with 109 wins and 1,033 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Quick answer

  • Who had the better ERA? Joe Williams, with 2.57 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
  • Who won more games? Dazzy Vance, with 197 to Joe Williams's 109.
  • Who recorded more strikeouts? Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Joe Williams's 1,033.
  • Who had the better WHIP? Joe Williams, with 1.18 to Dazzy Vance's 1.23.
  • Who pitched more innings? Dazzy Vance, with 2,966.2 to Joe Williams's 1,517.0.
  • Who threw more shutouts? Dazzy Vance, with 29 to Joe Williams's 14.
  • Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Dazzy Vance, with 70,553 career Pitcher PIV to Joe Williams's 44,974.
Leads Dazzy Vance 9 of 12 scored categories
Pitcher PIV edge Dazzy Vance +25,578
Read the verdict ↓

Dazzy Vance

Pitcher · 1915–1935
Wins
197
Losses
140
Strikeouts
2,045
ERA
3.24
WHIP
1.23
IP
2,966.2
View Dazzy Vance's full profile →

Joe Williams

Pitcher · ?–1932
Wins
109
Losses
59
Strikeouts
1,033
ERA
2.57
WHIP
1.18
IP
1,517.0
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 12 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 4 are counting totals on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded them. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.

Dazzy Vance vs Joe Williams: Career Stats Comparison — Career Stats Side-by-Side
Statistic Dazzy Vance Joe Williams
Wins Leads: 197 109
Losses not scored 140 59
Games Leads: 442 207
Games Started Leads: 347 172
Complete Games Leads: 216 140
Shutouts Leads: 29 14
Saves Leads: 11 5
Strikeouts Leads: 2,045 1,033
Walks not scored 840 339
Hits Allowed not scored 2,809 1,456
Home Runs Allowed not scored 132 26
Innings Pitched Leads: 2,966.2 1,517.0
ERA 3.24 Leads: 2.57
WHIP 1.23 Leads: 1.18
K/9 Leads: 6.20 6.13
BB/9 2.55 Leads: 2.01

PIV Comparison through 2025

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Joe Williams 70,553 to 44,974 — driven by per-season impact — 3,920 PIV per season to 2,142 — rather than by longevity, since Dazzy Vance played 18 seasons to Joe Williams's 21. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.

Dazzy Vance
70,553
Career Pitcher PIV · 3,920 per season (18 seasons)
Joe Williams
44,974
Career Pitcher PIV · 2,142 per season (21 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19282.09 ERA22-10, 200 K in 280 IP
19242.16 ERA28-6, 262 K in 308 IP
19302.61 ERA17-15, 173 K in 258 IP

Joe Williams — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19181.14 ERA10-6, 93 K in 134 IP
19302.81 ERA11-5, 116 K in 131 IP
19293.31 ERA6-7, 88 K in 138 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Dazzy Vance leads in wins, strikeouts, K/9, and innings pitched, while Joe Williams owns ERA and WHIP. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Dazzy Vance. PIV agrees: Dazzy Vance grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

Related Matchups

How the Dazzy Vance and Joe Williams careers compare

The careers of Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) and Joe Williams (?–1932) overlapped from 1932 to 1932, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. Dazzy Vance has the far longer record, 442 games against 207 across 18 and 21 PIV seasons, which inflates every career total. Where Joe Williams comes out ahead, it is in ERA (2.57 to 3.24), WHIP (1.18 to 1.23), and walks per nine (2.01 to 2.55). By rate, Dazzy Vance struck out 6.20 and walked 2.55 per nine innings; Joe Williams struck out 6.13 and walked 2.01.

Dazzy Vance vs Joe Williams: Frequently Asked Questions

Who was better, Dazzy Vance or Joe Williams?
By the career statistics compared on this page, Dazzy Vance leads Joe Williams in 9 of the 12 scored categories.
Who had the better ERA?
Joe Williams, with 2.57 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
Who won more games?
Dazzy Vance, with 197 to Joe Williams's 109.
Who recorded more strikeouts?
Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Joe Williams's 1,033.
Who had the better WHIP?
Joe Williams, with 1.18 to Dazzy Vance's 1.23.

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