Dazzy Vance vs Joe Williams: Career Stats Comparison
Dazzy Vance has the better career line of the two, leading 9 of the 12 scored categories on this page (4 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Dazzy Vance played 1915–1935 as a pitcher; Joe Williams played ?–1932 as a pitcher.
- ERA (Earned Run Average):
- Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
- W (Wins):
- Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
- SO (Strikeouts):
- For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
- WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
- Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.
Data updated
Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) and Joe Williams (?–1932) — they pitched in different contexts, so adjusted stats matter. Dazzy Vance finished with 197 wins and 2,045 strikeouts; Joe Williams finished with 109 wins and 1,033 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.
Quick answer
- Who had the better ERA? Joe Williams, with 2.57 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games? Dazzy Vance, with 197 to Joe Williams's 109.
- Who recorded more strikeouts? Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Joe Williams's 1,033.
- Who had the better WHIP? Joe Williams, with 1.18 to Dazzy Vance's 1.23.
- Who pitched more innings? Dazzy Vance, with 2,966.2 to Joe Williams's 1,517.0.
- Who threw more shutouts? Dazzy Vance, with 29 to Joe Williams's 14.
- Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Dazzy Vance, with 70,553 career Pitcher PIV to Joe Williams's 44,974.
Dazzy Vance
Joe Williams
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 12 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 4 are counting totals on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded them. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, so read them against the run environment each player worked in, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Dazzy Vance | Joe Williams |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | Leads: 197 | 109 |
| Losses not scored | 140 | 59 |
| Games | Leads: 442 | 207 |
| Games Started | Leads: 347 | 172 |
| Complete Games | Leads: 216 | 140 |
| Shutouts | Leads: 29 | 14 |
| Saves | Leads: 11 | 5 |
| Strikeouts | Leads: 2,045 | 1,033 |
| Walks not scored | 840 | 339 |
| Hits Allowed not scored | 2,809 | 1,456 |
| Home Runs Allowed not scored | 132 | 26 |
| Innings Pitched | Leads: 2,966.2 | 1,517.0 |
| ERA | 3.24 | Leads: 2.57 |
| WHIP | 1.23 | Leads: 1.18 |
| K/9 | Leads: 6.20 | 6.13 |
| BB/9 | 2.55 | Leads: 2.01 |
PIV Comparison through 2025
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Dazzy Vance outpaces Joe Williams 70,553 to 44,974 — driven by per-season impact — 3,920 PIV per season to 2,142 — rather than by longevity, since Dazzy Vance played 18 seasons to Joe Williams's 21. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).
Dazzy Vance — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Joe Williams — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Dazzy Vance leads in wins, strikeouts, K/9, and innings pitched, while Joe Williams owns ERA and WHIP. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Dazzy Vance. PIV agrees: Dazzy Vance grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
Related Matchups
How the Dazzy Vance and Joe Williams careers compare
The careers of Dazzy Vance (1915–1935) and Joe Williams (?–1932) overlapped from 1932 to 1932, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. Dazzy Vance has the far longer record, 442 games against 207 across 18 and 21 PIV seasons, which inflates every career total. Where Joe Williams comes out ahead, it is in ERA (2.57 to 3.24), WHIP (1.18 to 1.23), and walks per nine (2.01 to 2.55). By rate, Dazzy Vance struck out 6.20 and walked 2.55 per nine innings; Joe Williams struck out 6.13 and walked 2.01.
Dazzy Vance vs Joe Williams: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Dazzy Vance or Joe Williams?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Dazzy Vance leads Joe Williams in 9 of the 12 scored categories.
- Who had the better ERA?
- Joe Williams, with 2.57 to Dazzy Vance's 3.24.
- Who won more games?
- Dazzy Vance, with 197 to Joe Williams's 109.
- Who recorded more strikeouts?
- Dazzy Vance, with 2,045 to Joe Williams's 1,033.
- Who had the better WHIP?
- Joe Williams, with 1.18 to Dazzy Vance's 1.23.