Ty Cobb vs John Henry Lloyd: Career Stats Comparison
Ty Cobb has the better career line of the two, leading 14 of the 14 scored categories on this page (1 further counting total is shown but not scored). Ty Cobb played 1905–1928 as a hitter; John Henry Lloyd played 1912–1931 as a hitter.
- AVG (Batting Average):
- Hits divided by at bats. .300 is the traditional mark of an excellent hitter.
- HR (Home Runs):
- Hits on which the batter circled the bases and scored, almost always by clearing the outfield fence.
- RBI (Runs Batted In):
- Runs that scored as a direct result of a batter's plate appearance.
- OPS (On-Base Plus Slugging):
- On-base percentage plus slugging percentage, the quickest single summary of offensive value. .900 or better is star-level.
Data updated
Ty Cobb (1905–1928) and John Henry Lloyd (1912–1931) — they broke in during the 1900s and the 1910s respectively, which makes the side-by-side worth doing carefully. Ty Cobb finished with 4,189 hits and 117 home runs; John Henry Lloyd finished with 1,283 hits and 29 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.
Quick answer
- Who hit more home runs? Ty Cobb, with 117 to John Henry Lloyd's 29.
- Who had the higher OPS? Ty Cobb, with .945 to John Henry Lloyd's .848.
- Who had the higher batting average? Ty Cobb, with .366 to John Henry Lloyd's .344.
- Who had more hits? Ty Cobb, with 4,189 to John Henry Lloyd's 1,283.
- Who drove in more runs? Ty Cobb, with 1,944 to John Henry Lloyd's 661.
- Who has the higher career PIV? Ty Cobb, with 87,488 career PIV to John Henry Lloyd's 12,777.
John Henry Lloyd
Career Stats Side-by-Side
Every cell below is a career total or career rate for Ty Cobb and John Henry Lloyd. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. 14 of the 15 lines below are scored; the other one is a counting total on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded it. Counting stats reward longevity, and strikeouts are left unmarked because a longer career accumulates more of them. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, and the 1900s and the 1910s were different run environments, so read them against their eras, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.
| Statistic | Ty Cobb | John Henry Lloyd |
|---|---|---|
| Games | Leads: 3,035 | 981 |
| At-Bats | Leads: 11,436 | 3,731 |
| Runs | Leads: 2,247 | 641 |
| Hits | Leads: 4,189 | 1,283 |
| Doubles | Leads: 724 | 206 |
| Triples | Leads: 295 | 63 |
| Home Runs | Leads: 117 | 29 |
| RBI | Leads: 1,944 | 661 |
| Walks | Leads: 1,249 | 281 |
| Strikeouts not scored | 680 | 8 |
| Stolen Bases | Leads: 896 | 136 |
| Batting Avg | Leads: .366 | .344 |
| On-Base % | Leads: .433 | .391 |
| Slugging % | Leads: .512 | .456 |
| OPS | Leads: .945 | .848 |
PIV Comparison through 2025
By PIV (Player Impact Value), Ty Cobb outpaces John Henry Lloyd 87,488 to 12,777 — driven by per-season impact — 3,645 PIV per season to 456 — rather than by longevity, since Ty Cobb played 24 seasons to John Henry Lloyd's 28. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.
PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.
Peak Seasons
The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).
Ty Cobb — top 3 seasons by OPS
John Henry Lloyd — top 1 season by OPS
Verdict
On the head-to-head card, Ty Cobb leads in hits, home runs, RBI, and runs, while John Henry Lloyd owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Ty Cobb. PIV agrees: Ty Cobb grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.
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How the Ty Cobb and John Henry Lloyd careers compare
From 1912 through 1928, Ty Cobb and John Henry Lloyd were in the majors together. The table compares 3,035 games of Ty Cobb with 981 of John Henry Lloyd across 24 and 28 PIV seasons; totals favor the longer career by default. Ty Cobb leads every scored row of the table. At the plate, Ty Cobb walked more often than struck out (1,249 walks, 680 strikeouts), and John Henry Lloyd walked more often than struck out (281 walks, 8 strikeouts). On the bases, Ty Cobb stole more often per game played (896 steals in 3,035 games for Ty Cobb, 136 in 981 for John Henry Lloyd).
Ty Cobb vs John Henry Lloyd: Frequently Asked Questions
- Who was better, Ty Cobb or John Henry Lloyd?
- By the career statistics compared on this page, Ty Cobb leads John Henry Lloyd in 14 of the 14 scored categories.
- Did Ty Cobb or John Henry Lloyd hit more home runs?
- Ty Cobb, with 117 to John Henry Lloyd's 29.
- Who had the higher OPS?
- Ty Cobb, with .945 to John Henry Lloyd's .848.
- Who had the higher batting average?
- Ty Cobb, with .366 to John Henry Lloyd's .344.
- Who had more hits?
- Ty Cobb, with 4,189 to John Henry Lloyd's 1,283.