Lefty Grove vs Walter Johnson: Career Stats Comparison

Walter Johnson has the better career line of the two, leading 11 of the 12 scored categories on this page (4 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Lefty Grove played 1925–1941 as a pitcher; Walter Johnson played 1907–1927 as a pitcher.

ERA (Earned Run Average):
Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
W (Wins):
Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
SO (Strikeouts):
For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.

Data updated

Lefty Grove (1925–1941) and Walter Johnson (1907–1927) — breaking in during the 1920s and the 1900s respectively, so they pitched against very different hitting environments. Lefty Grove finished with 300 wins and 2,266 strikeouts; Walter Johnson finished with 417 wins and 3,509 strikeouts. The numbers below run them through identical career and rate-stat lenses.

Quick answer

  • Who had the better ERA? Walter Johnson, with 2.17 to Lefty Grove's 3.06.
  • Who won more games? Walter Johnson, with 417 to Lefty Grove's 300.
  • Who recorded more strikeouts? Walter Johnson, with 3,509 to Lefty Grove's 2,266.
  • Who had the better WHIP? Walter Johnson, with 1.06 to Lefty Grove's 1.28.
  • Who pitched more innings? Walter Johnson, with 5,914.2 to Lefty Grove's 3,940.2.
  • Who threw more shutouts? Walter Johnson, with 110 to Lefty Grove's 35.
  • Who has the higher career Pitcher PIV? Walter Johnson, with 124,021 career Pitcher PIV to Lefty Grove's 81,321.
Leads Walter Johnson 11 of 12 scored categories
Pitcher PIV edge Walter Johnson +42,700
Read the verdict ↓

Lefty Grove

Pitcher · 1925–1941
Wins
300
Losses
141
Strikeouts
2,266
ERA
3.06
WHIP
1.28
IP
3,940.2
View Lefty Grove's full profile →

Walter Johnson

Pitcher · 1907–1927
Wins
417
Losses
279
Strikeouts
3,509
ERA
2.17
WHIP
1.06
IP
5,914.2
View Walter Johnson's full profile →

Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 12 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 4 are counting totals on which fewer is not an achievement, so no one is awarded them. Totals where fewer is not an achievement -- losses, walks and hits allowed -- are left unmarked, because they track how long someone pitched rather than how well. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, and the 1920s and the 1900s were different run environments, so read them against their eras, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.

Lefty Grove vs Walter Johnson: Career Stats Comparison — Career Stats Side-by-Side
Statistic Lefty Grove Walter Johnson
Wins 300 Leads: 417
Losses not scored 141 279
Games 616 Leads: 802
Games Started 457 Leads: 666
Complete Games 298 Leads: 531
Shutouts 35 Leads: 110
Saves Leads: 55 34
Strikeouts 2,266 Leads: 3,509
Walks not scored 1,187 1,363
Hits Allowed not scored 3,849 4,913
Home Runs Allowed not scored 162 97
Innings Pitched 3,940.2 Leads: 5,914.2
ERA 3.06 Leads: 2.17
WHIP 1.28 Leads: 1.06
K/9 5.18 Leads: 5.34
BB/9 2.71 Leads: 2.07

PIV Comparison through 2025

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Walter Johnson outpaces Lefty Grove 124,021 to 81,321 — driven by both sides of the ledger: 5,906 PIV per season to 4,784, across 21 seasons to 17. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

PIV is computed through the 2025 season. The career totals on this page include 2026 to date, so PIV does not yet reflect the 2026 season.

Lefty Grove
81,321
Career Pitcher PIV · 4,784 per season (17 seasons)
Walter Johnson
124,021
Career Pitcher PIV · 5,906 per season (21 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Lefty Grove — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19312.06 ERA31-4, 175 K in 288 IP
19262.51 ERA13-13, 194 K in 258 IP
19302.54 ERA28-5, 209 K in 291 IP

Walter Johnson — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19131.14 ERA36-7, 243 K in 346 IP
19181.27 ERA23-13, 162 K in 326 IP
19101.36 ERA25-17, 313 K in 370 IP

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, Walter Johnson leads in wins, strikeouts, ERA, and WHIP, while Lefty Grove owns no headline categories. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Walter Johnson. PIV agrees: Walter Johnson grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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How the Lefty Grove and Walter Johnson careers compare

From 1925 through 1927, Lefty Grove and Walter Johnson were in the majors together. The two careers are close in length, 616 games for Lefty Grove and 802 for Walter Johnson across 17 and 21 PIV seasons, so the totals compare on fairly even terms. The green cells for Lefty Grove are saves (55 to 34). The per-nine rows read 5.18 strikeouts and 2.71 walks for Lefty Grove, 5.34 and 2.07 for Walter Johnson. Lefty Grove was mainly a starter (457 starts in 616 games), and Walter Johnson was mainly a starter (666 starts in 802 games). In WHIP, Walter Johnson's 1.06 beats Lefty Grove's 1.28.

Lefty Grove vs Walter Johnson: Frequently Asked Questions

Who was better, Lefty Grove or Walter Johnson?
By the career statistics compared on this page, Walter Johnson leads Lefty Grove in 11 of the 12 scored categories.
Who had the better ERA?
Walter Johnson, with 2.17 to Lefty Grove's 3.06.
Who won more games?
Walter Johnson, with 417 to Lefty Grove's 300.
Who recorded more strikeouts?
Walter Johnson, with 3,509 to Lefty Grove's 2,266.
Who had the better WHIP?
Walter Johnson, with 1.06 to Lefty Grove's 1.28.

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