Dave Bancroft vs John Henry Lloyd: Career Stats Comparison

Dave Bancroft (1915–1930) and John Henry Lloyd (1912–present) — both broke in during the 1910s, which makes the head-to-head feel like a contemporaries' debate. Dave Bancroft finished with 2,004 hits and 32 home runs; John Henry Lloyd finished with 1,283 hits and 29 home runs. Below is the full career table, PIV adjustment, peak seasons, and a verdict.

Dave Bancroft

Hitter · 1915–1930
Games
1,913
Hits
2,004
Home Runs
32
RBI
591
Avg
.279
OPS
.714
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John Henry Lloyd

Hitter · 1912–present
Games
981
Hits
1,283
Home Runs
29
RBI
661
Avg
.344
OPS
.848
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Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate for Dave Bancroft and John Henry Lloyd. Cells highlighted in green mark the category leader. Counting stats reward longevity; the rate stats at the bottom are era-agnostic.

Statistic Dave Bancroft John Henry Lloyd
Games 1,913 981
At-Bats 7,182 3,731
Runs 1,048 641
Hits 2,004 1,283
Doubles 320 206
Triples 77 63
Home Runs 32 29
RBI 591 661
Walks 827 281
Strikeouts 487 8
Stolen Bases 145 136
Batting Avg .279 .344
On-Base % .355 .391
Slugging % .358 .456
OPS .714 .848

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), John Henry Lloyd outpaces Dave Bancroft 12,777 to 4,247 — a gap driven primarily by per-season impact (456 vs 250 per year). PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Dave Bancroft
4,247
Career PIV · 250 per season (17 seasons)
John Henry Lloyd
12,777
Career PIV · 456 per season (28 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by OPS among qualified workloads (300+ at-bats).

Dave Bancroft — top 3 seasons by OPS

1921.830 OPS6 HR, 67 RBI, .318 avg
1925.826 OPS2 HR, 49 RBI, .319 avg
1922.815 OPS4 HR, 60 RBI, .321 avg

John Henry Lloyd — top 1 seasons by OPS

1921.835 OPS0 HR, 52 RBI, .347 avg

Verdict

On the head-to-head card, John Henry Lloyd leads in RBI, batting average, OBP, and OPS, while Dave Bancroft owns hits, home runs, and runs. That doesn't settle the era debate, but on the raw scoreboard the edge goes to John Henry Lloyd. PIV agrees: John Henry Lloyd grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

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