Red Faber vs Ed Walsh: Career Stats Comparison

Ed Walsh has the better career line of the two, leading 6 of the 8 scored categories on this page (8 further counting totals are shown but not scored). Red Faber played 1914–1933 as a pitcher; Ed Walsh played 1904–1917 as a pitcher.

ERA (Earned Run Average):
Earned runs allowed per nine innings pitched: (ER × 9) ÷ IP. The primary measure of pitching effectiveness.
W (Wins):
Games credited to a pitcher whose team took a lead it never surrendered while he was the pitcher of record.
SO (Strikeouts):
For a batter, times retired on a third strike; for a pitcher, batters retired on a third strike.
WHIP (Walks and Hits per Inning Pitched):
Baserunners allowed per inning: (BB + H) ÷ IP. Under 1.00 is elite.

Data updated

Red Faber (1914–1933) and Ed Walsh (1904–1917) — they debuted in the 1910s and the 1900s respectively, so they played in different run environments. Red Faber finished with 254 wins and 1,471 strikeouts; Ed Walsh finished with 195 wins and 1,736 strikeouts. The table below sets out their careers line by line.

Quick answer

  • Who leads the career comparison? Ed Walsh, in 6 of the 8 scored categories.
  • Who had the better ERA? Ed Walsh, with 1.82 to Red Faber's 3.15.
  • Who won more games? Red Faber, with 254 to Ed Walsh's 195.
  • Who recorded more strikeouts? Ed Walsh, with 1,736 to Red Faber's 1,471.
  • Who had the better WHIP? Ed Walsh, with 1.00 to Red Faber's 1.30.
  • How many innings did each pitch? Red Faber 4,086.2, Ed Walsh 2,964.1.
  • Who threw more shutouts? Ed Walsh, with 57 to Red Faber's 29.
Leads Ed Walsh 6 of 8 scored categories
Pitcher PIV edge Ed Walsh +38,093
Read the verdict ↓

Red Faber

Pitcher · 1914–1933
Wins
254
Losses
213
Strikeouts
1,471
ERA
3.15
WHIP
1.30
IP
4,086.2
View Red Faber's full profile →

Ed Walsh

Pitcher · 1904–1917
Wins
195
Losses
126
Strikeouts
1,736
ERA
1.82
WHIP
1.00
IP
2,964.1
View Ed Walsh's full profile →

Career Stats Side-by-Side

Every cell below is a career total or career rate. Cells highlighted in green mark the player who leads that line. Lower ERA, WHIP and BB/9 lead; higher K/9 leads. 8 of the 16 lines below are scored; the other 8 are shown but not scored. Games, starts and innings measure playing time, and losses, walks and hits allowed track how long someone pitched, so they are left unmarked, as is any line where both players are at zero. Rate stats are not era-adjusted, and the 1910s and the 1900s were different run environments, so read them against their eras, or use the PIV card below, which is adjusted.

Red Faber vs Ed Walsh: Career Stats Comparison — Career Stats Side-by-Side
Statistic Red Faber Ed Walsh
Wins Leads: 254 195
Losses not scored 213 126
Games not scored 669 430
Games Started not scored 483 315
Complete Games Leads: 273 250
Shutouts 29 Leads: 57
Saves not scored 28 35
Strikeouts 1,471 Leads: 1,736
Walks not scored 1,213 617
Hits Allowed not scored 4,106 2,346
Home Runs Allowed not scored 111 23
Innings Pitched not scored 4,086.2 2,964.1
ERA 3.15 Leads: 1.82
WHIP 1.30 Leads: 1.00
K/9 3.24 Leads: 5.27
BB/9 2.67 Leads: 1.87

PIV Comparison

By PIV (Player Impact Value), Ed Walsh outpaces Red Faber 62,631 to 24,538 — driven by per-season impact — 4,474 PIV per season to 1,227 — rather than by longevity, since Ed Walsh played 14 seasons to Red Faber's 20. PIV adjusts each season to league baselines, so it's the cleanest way to compare careers across eras.

Red Faber
24,538
Career Pitcher PIV · 1,227 per season (20 seasons)
Ed Walsh
62,631
Career Pitcher PIV · 4,474 per season (14 seasons)

How PIV is calculated →

Peak Seasons

The best single seasons each player produced, ranked by ERA among qualified workloads (120+ innings).

Red Faber — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19171.92 ERA16-13, 84 K in 248 IP
19162.02 ERA17-9, 87 K in 205 IP
19212.48 ERA25-15, 124 K in 330 IP

Ed Walsh — top 3 seasons by ERA (lower is better)

19101.27 ERA18-20, 258 K in 369 IP
19091.41 ERA15-11, 127 K in 230 IP
19081.42 ERA40-15, 269 K in 464 IP

Verdict

Ed Walsh leads 6 of the 8 scored categories on the head-to-head card: shutouts, strikeouts, ERA, WHIP, and others. Red Faber leads 2: wins and complete games. They played in different eras, and these rows are not era-adjusted. On the raw scoreboard the edge goes to Ed Walsh. PIV agrees: Ed Walsh grades out higher across their careers. Click through to each profile for the full season-by-season breakdown.

Related Matchups

How the Red Faber and Ed Walsh careers compare

The careers of Red Faber (1914–1933) and Ed Walsh (1904–1917) overlapped from 1914 to 1917, so for those seasons they faced the same league conditions. The table compares 669 games of Red Faber with 430 of Ed Walsh across 20 and 14 PIV seasons; totals favor the longer career by default. Red Faber's edges on the table are wins (254 to 195) and complete games (273 to 250). The per-nine rows read 3.24 strikeouts and 2.67 walks for Red Faber, 5.27 and 1.87 for Ed Walsh. Red Faber was mainly a starter (483 starts in 669 games), and Ed Walsh was mainly a starter (315 starts in 430 games).

Red Faber vs Ed Walsh: Frequently Asked Questions

Who was better, Red Faber or Ed Walsh?
By the career statistics compared on this page, Ed Walsh leads Red Faber in 6 of the 8 scored categories.
Who had the better ERA?
Ed Walsh, with 1.82 to Red Faber's 3.15.
Who won more games?
Red Faber, with 254 to Ed Walsh's 195.
Who recorded more strikeouts?
Ed Walsh, with 1,736 to Red Faber's 1,471.
Who had the better WHIP?
Ed Walsh, with 1.00 to Red Faber's 1.30.

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